#17 ScaleAI concerns, Meta uses ChatGPT, Claude new privacy, Switzerland launch model, Atlassian

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Um, oh, we 17 now. Jesus Christ. 17, eh? 17. Um, SCI quality concerns. That'll do. That'll go in there. Um, GPT. Oh, no. So create I'm going to try live again on Instagram because it didn't work. They also change the streaming keys very often. Yeah, we are we are vertical on YouTube. All right. So four people four people join us live. Hello four people. We're doing more experiments. Um, and we truly thank you for putting up for our patients. I see. Oh god, we've got lots of really lengthy headlines today. Um, yay. We are live on Instagram as well. Sweet. How did you do that? like whilst we're live. Uh it allowed me the first time didn't work.

So cool. Hello everybody. So I will see the comments from Instagram directly uh through my browser browser. We can see them in the comments here because Instagram meta sucks. They don't have like APIs for this type of things. Um You guys hear us? Fine. Cool. Cool. Are they responding? Are they saying uh there is a huge delay? So, I'm still waiting the Instagram. Salute to old man. Are you old man? Who's the old man? I am the old Who said this? Where? Kevin. Kevin Abro. I am the old man. Where's this from, Kevin? I don't know. All right, cool. There you go. This is TW. This is YouTube. Twitter. No, YouTube. YouTube. YouTube. Um, yeah, we're kind of, if you are with us, we are running these experiments.

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We have some new open-source updates. And Arc, my favorite uh browser, got acquired by Atlassian. This is Command AI. I am Kavarza. And I am Sam. And this is a week in AI design and dev. Cool. Awesome. Yeah. Happy. Smooth. You're smooth. Yeah. Um we can go for it. We can go for like the chat that we have. Uh we have 10 people like from my Instagram. We have like 15 from other PE places. I don't see the count for Twitter. Um I should Yeah. Um, I'm seeing if I can join you on Instagram. If I can just add myself to that chat. Um, we're going to try something different this week. We're going to just chat about what we've been up to.

I know you've got some thoughts and ideas. Basically, Kabaz is going to use this as a free consulting session for True, true, true. Yeah. So, I have a developer here. Uh, Sam is my developer friend. If you don't know guys, uh we always had these conversations and we thought like we'll make this show with and we've been doing this for some time now and I always I I like to borrow his brain and you know ask some questions about my my ideas. So what what do you think about this idea for a website? Um a website made with many small videos in each section. Not every single section but most of the sections with a video explaining something.

So imagine you know people browsing your website, your portfolio agency, whatever. Instead of reading it, they can see your gorgeous face with a title maybe like the a nice thumbnail that says our pricing explained in two minutes. So instead of them reading the pricing every and everything, they could watch a video you explaining and showing it. So that's the kind of like the base level. We could scale this or like bring this to a crazier level. Imagine your website being essentially just one giant video made of many small like pieces. So people can navigate your website by talking to you in a way but by just choosing something. It was also a Netflix show uh the the Black Mirror or one of the episodes you could choose the destination.

So imagine like navigating like this. I don't know if a website like this exists, an idea like this, but I got this idea from many people not reading our content and still asking the question. And I was like, what? Why not add a thumbnail with a twominut or one minute video explaining what that section is, like our work, our process, our services? This happens on YouTube as well, though. Like I literally got a a question, a comment this morning asking it was on my um my MacBook Air video, does it vibe? And someone's literally saying, I'm a developer. Should I use a MacBook Air? It's like, did you not watch the video? Like this is literally what I'm ask answering in the video.

So that that's just a comment on on that. If Yeah. If I understand this correctly, you want to replace reading with watching. Not so replacing it would be the big step or like the the crazy idea. But the other one is not replacing it's just having little thumb not very little but like you know thumbnails of your face with an explanation like a one small liner that says pricing explained in one minute. So they don't have to figure out oh you have you have like monthly projects and you have like subscription you have like per project you have enterprise you have custom whatever right just explain it it it's much faster to say things in two minutes than you know giving people two minutes to read it okay that's the idea I think I just saw a thing that you're able to invite me can you invite me to Instagram I'll get back to I'm looking on Instagram.

Sorry about the sirens. Maybe we should Yeah, are you fine? Um maybe I can even put on a bit of a more ext because we're going live from the web and that's not possible. Okay. Right. I'm gonna talk. Can you hear me now? Can you hear me? Yeah. Yeah. Can you hear me? Can you hear me now? I can hear you just fine. Okay. Maybe the noise gate is not working that I have on um uh OBS. Right. If you're in the comments, let us know what you think about this idea of you know a video supported let's say website. So all the information you would get on a website. I'm just trying to understand the the proposition.

All of the information you get on a website is supported by a thumbnail that with a video that explains the current page that you're on. Whether it's about whether it's pro I mean how do you differentiate between because you often have about and like price you won't have everything on like imagine process like we have a clear defined process. We go from like we help you create a site map and then a wireframe and then you know the design and the rest you know it's writing that is going to takes like a lot of words showing that in images takes a lot of like vertical space having it in one video I can communicate so much more I can create like a tiny show reels inside like in the video to like you know with my face talking and the show real saying ah this is like the results that we get and I all I'm thinking about is communicating more building trust with you know people trust faces um and that's like the reason for it if if this is going to work I don't know I would love to see examples two questions who who is this target market my clients your clients right so you're it's going to be for an agency website, right?

Yes. Agency website. So, these are like business owners, enterprise hopefully uh clients and who are like decision makers at these companies. These are like maybe designers for like some of them uh marketers for bigger companies like the head of the marketing or someone working at the marketing team. Um but a lot of my clients like they start by having like a designer who found finds finds us and then gets in contact with us and Okay. So and do you feel like video is the best way to communicate to these people? Like do you think that's their primary form of communication? Then yeah, that's the question. I know video I so in an absolute sense I know video is like a medium in which you can communicate a lot faster because you have the visual and the the voice but I don't know if it's going to work for businesses.

I know it will work for like selling a course but for businesses I'm not sure. I mean process is an interesting example to use because it's quite common um to for like video production companies to have like a show reel or something like that. It's quite common for agencies to have their process and they're kind of just like a like a video that explains about the company and whatever. So, but I I think what you're describing is something a little bit more like again targeted at spec like you say pricing as an example. Um, I would I would I couldn't ever imagine, you know, navigating a website, having to watch through video because, you know, everyone interprets information differently.

And and that's what's beautiful about AI is because you get the exact thing that you want. It doesn't add a lot of gump either side, right? And you can you can say a bunch of words before, you can say a bunch of words after, but all I care about is that bit of text, your per hourly rate or something like that. And it's often quite a um laborious task to kind of sit through a video just to wait, click through. When are you going to say the price? When are you going to say the price? Do you know what I mean? You're not going to come out there and say whatever. Maybe maybe all I care about is what you do through what what's your um what do you call it?

It's not a replacement by the way. Like they know this. I know this. Yeah, I know this. Um so like it's maybe I just care about the the um your SLA, your support after the process. Like yes, you do design development blah blah you go through all this, but what happens after the project? And then I've got to kind of sit through a video or skip through it or whatever to do it. I mean, there's nothing wrong with having vid. Why not? Like, there's no reason why you shouldn't have videos. I think I'm going to close my window. But, um, I would I would question logically, is the juice worth the squeeze in this? Is it really going to have a big tangible impact?

I would question that. Yeah. I I don't know either. So, I would But yeah, this is just an addition. H also bandwidth is another thing you know um you you you're going to pay a lot more for your website to host your website if you're I don't think it's like I don't get a lot of I don't especially if it's on web flame if you yeah you know so try it I think you need to you need to talk to your you need and this is probably where you know where my um latest frame of mind is coming from at the moment building apps and things like that is talk to your actual client. Stop.

We we live in a world where we make all these assumptions without even talking like um YouTube is terrible for it. We make statistical like 10x your income without any verification on like where do you get 10x from? Like what what what maths have you done to get 10x? Right? We live in a world where we're throwing around a lot of facts and figures and statistics. This, it's this, it's that with zero. And what someone said to me once a very cool um something of one um audience of one or um basically you you've taken your own uh research research of one or something like this, you know. Well, there there are two camps around this by the way.

There are like two primarily like thinking around this one is so the question the question is should you ask your users for what they want and based on what they reply build that for them deliver it to them there are two ideas one saying yes you should do research you should do market research analyze and listen to your users and deliver what they are asking there is the other camp where it's like Steve Jobs Our users don't know what they want. We know what is great, what is best for them, and we just go ahead and create it for them. And I believe both can be true. Like if you have a great sense, and there is this meme, uh what is the name of this guy?

He's like, do you have any technical abilities? Like no. So why why are you getting paid for for my Ruben? Rick Rubin. Yeah. Yeah. for my for my best like what was what does he say like my lack of technical musical no he says like because of my taste for my amazing taste and ability to communicate what I want something like this so I do believe in that camp as well because look Apple made iPhone 13 mini and they stopped making it uh after like two years why because it didn't sell why did they make it at the first place because users were asking for it. People were saying like we want it, but then people went to the shop, they tried it and they just didn't buy it.

I mean, here's the thing. No one said anything about build listening to your users to build what they want. Right. It's it's a source of data for you to consider. Yeah. to then use your creative and entrepreneurial uh ability to produce something that is not too far removed from the pain points of your potential customer. Makes sense. So the the takeaway is ask your users but don't necessarily listen to them. Yeah. If you if you want to boil it down to a simple sentence like that. And here's the thing. Here's the kicker. Here's the kicker. Um, that AI says that a lot and I notice it in videos now. I'm like, here's the kick. Okay, you've you've asked Claude to write that for you.

Um, here's the kicker. This is a great way to talk to your potential clients and strike up a conversation with them. Say, "Hey, you know, we we've been dealing with a lot of you guys. We or we we're looking to pivot into your industry, blah blah blah. we'd love to sit down and chat to you about, you know, your experience working with companies like us. And you don't want to ask leading questions. You don't want to try and verify that your video idea is the way that they want. You want to ask them enough questions about how they consume content and this and that and and then come to that conclusion because the worst thing is you you lead them down where you you verifying your own assumptions and that's the wrong way to do it.

In another word, yeah, that that's really important. Yeah. To not lead to not seed them, you know, give give them the idea, right? Yeah. So, because if you if they are nice to you, whatever idea you bring, they just say, "Yeah, go for it." But you shouldn't do this. So the the so what I need you're telling me that I need a UX designer to create a survey survey and survey my clients without giving them any idea like directly uh get AI to do it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're going to make a lot. You're giving people too many jobs. You're giving too many designers jobs. They need less of them. There's too many of them.

No. This is this is a great segue to our next discussion which is what well which is is AI replacing you or replacing your job and are you going to lose your job or is it are we going to are you going to give like a lot of you know projects to AI to do instead of like human I I think you're more in the camp of you give the AI something to do and get something back in return. I tend to give AI to my people like give them all the AI tools and say go do this thing, use AI for it. So do it faster, do more. Should we pick this up after the first article?

Yeah, that that's actually a good idea. Yeah, there you go. You set us up and we'll answer it after our first article. Yeah. Did Zuckerberg's dream team become a nightmare? Did he get scammed by Scala AI and dirty data? Have you seen this? Well, not really, but it sounds really exciting because it's Mark Zuckerberg getting scammed. So, it is exciting. How So, you remember the dream team? How long's that been being put together? How long has Zuckerberg been dishing out hundreds of millions of dollars to pick up the likes of the key people from OpenAI, from Anthropic, from just the AI industry in general? How long? What? Two months. Yeah. He he's been offering a lot of money even like like literally in billions in total and it's already falling apart.

Would you believe from it basically stems from one thing and they purchased it all began with the purchase of Andrew Wang. Is it Andrew Wang? Um who who built a startup called Scale AI and they own a lot of data that a lot of other companies use to train their models on and various things like that. Um they produ they uh purchased Scale AI or at least they purchased 49% stake in scale AI owning a minority stake in the whole entire company. But really, I think they were just after Andrew Wang to enroll him into Zuck's new efforts of the MSL, the what do they call it now? The um Meta Super Intelligence Labs. What people are finding that are working with this in this MSL group is that the scale AI data that Zuck purchased is actually pretty terrible and they're actually turning to some of their the scalei's competitors to get better data to train and and work with Llama using companies like Serge and Meror I think you call that Merkor.

So they're actually turning on turning for to their competitors. So scale AI is is basically just I don't know maybe it's just not good enough. And after digging into this article and it's not necessarily the reason but what they found was the data was produced by uh sort of cheap labor basically. Yeah. um cheap labor labor to to build these data sets. And the the sort of quality they need at this point is from the likes of like you know very very wellrespected minds I guess like uh what do they say here like doctors and lawy lawyers and scientists that's the sort of data we're looking at but it was put together through this you know lowinccome um messy thing.

So people are getting frustrated people are getting frustrated and people are actually leaving because of this. Now the senior well we're not ne again it's not because I think this is just piecing everything together here and you know one thing leads to another because we're only two months in and the senior vice president um has left because of it as well and these are big names and other other members are are leaving um MSL all at this kind of time of all this kind of not great stuff coming out to be honest. So yeah, it's kind of all falling to bits a little bit. So how how does this work to my like the way I understand there are these companies that are specialized in cultivating and collecting data?

Actually they what what do they do? Do they go to like do they buy books, scan them and put them like in Dropbox and something like this? How does that Do you know what? I couldn't even tell you. But we can we can hazard a guess. And my guess would be to that effect. Yes. They're they're scanning doesn't look so great, does it? That uh they're they're scanning books. They're doing research. They're collecting data from various resources that has proven data, evaluations, and outcomes. Um let's see if they have anything to do with them resources about go. All right. So how how do how do they like ask low like lowcost labor? They probably will go to like India.

This is you know the lowcost market like people who also speak English. They probably ask them to gather information essentially right categorize thing I I believe there are there is also some tagging going on so they tag uh information like images etc it's not just like uploading things they have to understand like they use the human to understand what the context like what is the context of this paper or whatever and add some notation that that's I believe what is happening Yeah. Yeah. They're collecting data. And I've just I've done a little search over here. Um uh collect using a combination of automated tools and distributed network of human annotators in a process known as human in the loop data management.

The company partners with clients to gather raw data in various types such as images, text, video, audio. And I'm guessing they're tagging this data. They're they're they're trying to create some sort of structure out of it. Sounds like a lot of manual labor to do so. Um, and I guess in time they can use more automated solutions as as the data grows and and whatever obviously internal systems. So, I'm guessing that's how they've they've take they've gotten this data. Um, it's not really my industry. It's not my industry, but it's not my um wheelhouse to really comment much further than that. But yeah, human in the loop. Um, so how is that related to what we were talking about like hiring people to do like AI work?

So obviously um Meta are trying to create super intelligence. They're trying to uh deliver Llama Llama 4 which has been a bit below expectations and try and develop super intelligence. We obvious they obviously need data to do that and they're going to obviously turn to Andrew who's now the the um I guess the leader of the MSL group. They're going to turn to his company to use their data to you know build super intelligence to work with super intelligence. But people inside the team are finding that the data is just not very good. And whilst this is this is just one of the pieces of this puzzle really when it comes to this this whole falling apart of the MSL group and Meta's efforts to to reach super intelligence.

Um people are getting frustrated. People are probably not seeing the light even though Zach's been offering up to 300 million in bonus packages. People are walking away. People are going back to open AI. Yeah. Is it to do with the the fact that they've lost faith in the the person who's leading their team, his own company is just a a shell of a company. It's not very good. It's not as good as they they which I'm, you know, as an aside, I'm I'm seeing a lot of um people lying outwardly about what they're capable of. Um, you know, maybe maybe Andrew Wang sold the dream and Zuckerberg took a sip of the scale AI Kool-Aid.

I don't know. These are American idioms. Yeah, this is literally another This is literally another episode of Silicon Valley. Oh, shut up. Let's move on. But yeah, this is We'll get into that. Even Theo talked about it. Yeah. Um Yeah. I think I think there's just it it's not looking great for MSL at the moment. It's kind of falling apart stemming from dirty data. Not uh com is commenting saying that they use label data and then supervised learning uh which is used for training the model. They also use unsupervised learning technique and semi-supervised learning. Okay. So, there are like a bunch of different techniques. Well, either way, yeah, nobody feels bad for Mark. So, yeah.

Yeah, it is. Yeah, there is a bit of smuggness there of just like, you know, he's tried to throw money at something and it's uh it's just not panning out for him. Um, which is kind of what you get. I think it's just nice watching greedy billionaires just fail. That's true. And and to be honest, you know, we could probably go into the next article here where essentially Meta are now looking to chat GPT to OpenAI to Google to actually um partner with them in order to support their own meta super intelligence labs and so and even anthropic as well. Actually, we'll get to the anthropic thing in just a second, but like they which it begs the question about OpenAI, uh, sorry, Llama being open source and if they're behind the scenes using Google and using, you know, um, Chat PT and stuff like that, is it truly open source?

If that's behind the the scenes um, the scenes. But I think ultimately it's basically encouraging their teams to use third parties as much as possible to to work and um we haven't spoken about this but um I'm I'm close with some of the guys at Meta and was chatting to them a couple of weeks ago and they full they're fully in on Clawude Code. They use Clawude Code on a daily basis to do their work at Meta. Now they're not part of MSL. are not that close. Um, and are they allowed? Is this allowed? And they're totally allowed. This is paid for. This is this is their this is a subscription that's given to them.

They're not they're not paying for them themselves. So, it just goes to show that Llama and Meta's own AI systems just aren't there yet. I know we kind of knew yet this, but it's just coming to light how Yeah. how not up to scratch it is. So, um, Zuckerberg's bet is is truly falling away. And and the, um, Meta also signed a six-year cloud computing deal with Google worth over 10 billion, and that's using their servers and stuff like that. And this is not, you know, I don't want to, I don't want to try and um, make something that's not already being done. iPhones use Samsung screens, you know, arguably better screens than Samsung's only you their their phones use, you know, their own phones use.

So, you know, this isn't crazy to know that you use other people. That's an interesting point and uh comparison that because yeah like Samsung is making the the screens for iPhones, Sony is making the the camera sensors for iPhones and iPhones have like better they don't have like objectively better screens all the time in every scenario but they have like an overall package they are I know this discussion could be like really heated uh they they are just better phones it alto together, right? Yeah. So this might happen to AI companies and maybe so based on this we so maybe the the companies who make the models might not be the winners but the companies that put together whatever model to to create a product they will be the winners.

And we see this already. We see that these companies are you know starting to work with one but then switch to another company um based on like the quality and which changes like it feels like every week. Yeah. Yeah. I mean like you we we we spoke about uh Nvidia last week, gold gold shovels gold or whatever, you know. Um at the end of the day, it it it makes you wonder about open source just in general like you know people don't want to if if you're there are better tools already out there that do a better job than you can ever do then why not just leverage them? But um anyway, that's that's Meta falling to absolute pieces in a nutshell.

So I'm I'm secretly secretly happy about that. So what what was your question then? Let's go back to the uh the questions. Is AI replacing us jobs? So what the way I see it uh I don't want to if I so the way I see it if I have a job I don't want to ask AI to do it for me directly for small things sure but for bigger things like anything that is client related if I can find somebody who knows how to leverage AI better than I do and they can do it for cheaper than it takes me you know time to do then I would just ask them to do it for example example like the very like the simplest example editing images if AI is best at anything it is image generation right now like it's it just it's very good like from all the models actually from nano banana to anything else and there I I see there are people who are really specialized in that people who just prompt they they know how to prompt to create the most aesthetically beautiful images and I could get there, right?

I know that I could try and I could like prompt a hundred times, but my point is instead of doing all of that, I just ask the human to leverage the AI to get me the work that I want uh and I pay the human. That's my point that the AI AI is definitely yes taking away some jobs but it's creating some new jobs for people who are I would say have an like in this case have an eye for aesthetics and design and understand it in a deep and fundamental level so that they can deliver and it doesn't matter to me how they deliver. All it mattered is what they deliver with what quality they deliver, how fast they deliver it, and how much it costs me.

If it cost me less to do it myself with AI, I will do it myself with AI. But I bet in most cases, and I this is not theory. This is actually what I do. Like I had 50 images to edit. I've edited hundreds thousands of images and you know I've been doing photography like I used to do it like for over a decade right I could do it but I like instead of spending one whole day working on that I paid somebody else to do it and I didn't care if they use AI or not all I care is like there was and I I believe they did they did use Photoshop AI um but I don't care it what matters is the job is done.

Uh instead of taking like my whole day to work on that, I worked on something else and um they got to work on that. So I think AI is just and at least for now it's another tool that people can learn and leverage. Um I care if they're using AI. I definitely care if they're using AI because if someone's going to especially if they're charging per hour, you know, someone's if someone's going to take three hours to do something they could do in three seconds um with AI, but they're, you know, beholden to the Photoshop, whatever, then I I'm probably not going to use that person. You know, if I'm interviewing, I'm I always ask, "How do you use AI for your work?"

Because if I'm pay again, if I'm paying by the hour, I want them to be as efficient as possible to use the latest tools and whatever to enhance their work as possible. So I probably a and like, you know, I expect them to know a lot about where AI helps them. So, if someone's going to turn around to me and tell me they're a video editor and they they use AI to edit the videos, then I'm going to be like, well, actually, I know the state of AI video editing and it is not great. So, tell me more about that. or you know again if someone's going to say they develop an app with me uh if if they're a developer and they completely use AI I'm going to now you know because I do it myself I'm going to try and understand to what extent like if they're a vibe coder then no thank you but if they're someone who uses it to do the the boring stuff that they don't want to do or if they set off an AI to do one thing whilst they're coding another thing then then you've bent my ear a little But um but what's your what's what exactly is your question here?

What is what are you the question was like uh if a if should if people should be worried about AI taking their job or like being replaced by AI. It's not that they are being replaced by AI because AI does the job better. It's because they you know stay in the old world. And to to clarify, I 100% agree with what you said where I said I don't care if they use AI is like I do care I want them to use AI as long as the quality is what I want. I don't care if you know how much AI they use how arrive at it I I give them a timeline I give them the task and they better use AI and every job requires a different level of you know let's call it professionalism and I don't mean that in the presentation I mean that like how difficult the task is or how complex the task is different complexity is probably a better way to explain it um and we spoke about this before the When we say when we say like AI is taking jobs, we're not saying that an industry has been taken away, like when we say like it's funny because I'm a developer and I could not I could not imagine a an industry more excited about AI than develop developers.

But the the the the same rules apply to developers. It's taking our code learn off of, you know, free whatever. Don't get me wrong, there are going to be tons of developers in the comments and whatever who don't like this and that's totally fine as with everything. You're entitled to your opinion. But there are far more supportive developers for AI um as their, you know, is in the creative field. Trust me, I've just, you know, put a post out on LinkedIn that got a lot of hate um or a lot of people upset upset a lot of people. Um I talk about this in my video that I released last night. It's all about the pool of developers, designers, whatever it is that you do.

It's now no longer because someone can do so much with with AI. Um, you can hire one per you don't need to hire a team of developers to work on a product anymore. You can just hire one developer who knows how to leverage AI. You don't need to hire a team of designers. You just need to hire a designer that has um you know can utilize AI to do their job faster, do their job better. If they're not doing their job better then then they're not they're not worth hiring. This just means instead of hiring a few people I could just hire one person and this is going to be a for everyone. If I'm hiring at all because I'm a I hire I'm a boss.

I will not hire I will not hire someone because I'll choose to use AI. I've done that several times. I'm like, well, I can just use AI to to do this. So, why would I hire? I don't need to hire someone to make this icon or make this logo or, you know, do this development work. I don't need to hire a developer to do this. People have lost work from me where I would have hired for it. People have lost work from people I know because they just thought this is simple enough for Chat GBT to swat out for me. So, you've already lost jobs. And that's what we mean by losing jobs. It doesn't mean that you're never going to get hired.

It doesn't mean an industry has been removed. It just means there is less need for so many. There are less jobs that require a specialist person because AI can do it like that. I set myself up in a banana costume. I have no I don't need to hire a designer to do that for me now. I don't need to spend half an hour, 15 minutes in Photoshop to do that. I can just say boom, 3 seconds done. I'm now wearing a banana costume. Yeah. But this is like the low scale. I think this this would not apply to bigger scale and for more complex things. So in my case disagree for in my case like I wouldn't I didn't I I okay so let's say it did like this.

I stopped giving my developer simple tasks because now AI does it. What I do he's not like he didn't lose his job. He's just getting more complex tasks. That's how I see it. Like it's the level of complexity that is shifting and yes people are being left out and left behind. People who refuse to go the ladder to go up in the ladder of complexity and abstraction. People who just stay in you know their old as you said like the example with the Photoshop version if they are not using AI to you know to do the things they will be left out. But for bigger scale like more complex things AI is simply not there to do like the complex development tool the development work but it's been pushed to do low-level tasks of that complex thing.

So rather than it consuming the whole entire task which is what we've just been talking about which is putting me in banana costume it's now been offset to writing a a function in a developer's work workflow. So yeah, I mean ultimately like what what are we actually trying to say here? Personally, I think that um the it's misconstrued that when we say someone's lost their job or jobs are going away. Uh one, they've already gone. Two, we don't say an industry's gone like and three, I think we'll be surprised at how happy people I think you said it earlier, didn't you? how happy people will be with basic. Was it you who sent a tweet about this?

The majority there'll be a lot of people who are happy with mediocre. Oh, I know who it was. It was the founder of web studio. Oh, no. What What did he say? He just simply said that people more people than you imagine or whatever will be happy with mediocre results because at the end of the day it's a race to to get things out there and you know things don't need to be perfect. You need to realize that and that's what I've realized as a business owner. Things do not need to be perfect. Yes. But yes and no. Like mediocre results like just average is what like if you if you look at our webs all websites on on on the internet the average quality like if you average them the average design is pretty bad.

Like the average design would be what you would call below average, right? And yes. So by that it means like most people would be happy with an average design, right? But again, if you want to stand out, you have to develop deliver above average. And that average might like I want to bring it all to this point that uh I believe this average is constantly moving up like the average is getting better constantly like look at the quality of website like the designs has gotten much much better uh compared to like 20 years ago, right? M m so yes uh with AI people are getting a lot of a lot more people are getting average and a lot of them are happy with it but there will be always the need for higher output higher quality better output more output here's the thing though we're going to get off the we got to get off this topic here's the thing and this is the difference between because I you know I try I used to be I used to a full-time job, 9 to5.

I used to work for someone and, you know, work for the managers. Now, I have my own company. I work for myself. Um, and I I've seen both those transitions. I'm very interested. I'm not amazing at it, don't get me wrong, but I've seen the difference between being a worker and being a boss of a company, trying to, you know, make a company work. When you're a worker, you're determined that you're going to do the absolute best. like you you feel like everything needs to be premium and amazing and it does in time. What I've learned as a company owner is that good enough will do. Like, okay, sure, if you want to take a lot of time to do this, that's fine, but we we don't need that, right?

You you need to balance you it's how much um weight you're willing to put into this task. If you need to recognize the commercial ability of this particular task and if it's something where you know let's say security and uh like a migration of a database something that rests heavily on needing to be really friaking meticulous about the work that you do that's where you put your energy. But if you can if you can you know what's the word I'm looking for? I'm terrible with words. If you can um recognize when you the the effort needed is a little bit, take your foot off the gas a little bit because good is good enough. You'd be surprised at how much you can actually get away with.

And from launching a product and succeeding as a business, you don't need to go 100% on every single thing that you do. You know, just recognizing where to put your foot on and off the gas is is really crucial. And that's kind of what I've learned as a business. It's like mo you can you can get away with not being 100% all of the time. Yeah. Should we move on? Yeah, we should move on. We have a few more articles to go through. We do. We We're trying a new format. If you're if you're new here, uh this is probably a just complete mess to you, but um yeah. So, anthropic plot twist. The AI that promised privacy now wants your diary.

So, have you seen the latest updates to Anthropic? I guess all of their products. They now want to keep your um chat data, chat history, your code history and claw code as well. Don't think you just because you're a developer, you escape this uh craziness. They want to keep your data for five years. They want to keep and train off your data too. So, it's not just like holding on to it, you know, for you know, I don't know what you couldn't call it like HR, whatever. um is literally they're training off your data. And this is re a stark contrast kind of to a company that in recent months has been releasing so many articles about you know just privacy in general and and you know making sure that AI is built for good and this and that.

In fact, let me share my thing uh because I've adjusted my screen now to make sure it might fit better. I'm looking at the screen. Looking at the screen. Nice. There you go. Um, yeah. And you've basically got until the 28th of September. You should be presented with some sort of screen to to accept this. Now, I I have because you've seen what Siri can can't do because of all the privacy stuff. I want a better product from Claude. I'm happy them seeing what I'm coding. Again, this is maybe a developers perspective with all this, but they're literally Yeah. They're going to be keeping your data for up to five years. So, if you say yes to it now, that means they'll have your data, all of your data until the year 2030, which is just crazy.

Yeah. Um, funny to see your developer mindset as well. It's like just take all my life, take my data, my code. I I I mean they already have it. I want a better product. I want a I'm le I'm I I see the light. I'm I'm I'm want a better product and I don't mind sharing my data to give better product. You know, Streamyard, we use Streamyard to do all this that and the other. Every single time we do a show, I click generate AI. We never use them, but I want that to get better because if we can AI generate a bunch of shorts for you guys and pump them out, um then that's just better for everyone.

Uh, so I just I just click it because I'm whether I don't know whether they're training on it or not, but I just want that to get better and better and better. So what's your perspective? I mean, are you are you saying yes or do you use you use core, don't you? Um, very little, but I would say yes in cursor. Yes, I do. I do. I wonder if I wonder how this does it with through cursor then. Do you think cursor you need to accept through cursor? I didn't notice anything new through cursor. I've been using cursor and especially like the claw models, but I would say yes to it. I mean, if they have my data for 30 days or five years, I don't think it's going to make a difference.

They they have my data anyway. And even even if they don't store the 30-day version, you know, for longer, they could train, you know, on it and store it in a different version, right? Um so I I don't care about this too much. It's it would be nice to not you know give away your data but I guess this is the world we are living in and I don't feel like fighting against it to be honest. Yeah. At the end of the day if we're getting better products from it I mean Google have always done this you know you they give away their products for free in return. We get good products. If it's not a good product then whatever.

I really I mean don't get me wrong I'm with you guys here when it comes to privacy. I really don't want this to bite me in the ass. I really really don't. I want to have faith in humanity but anthropic do give weird vibes as as Theo's video created about the weird vibe thing. They've actually invited him to go speak to him to kind of correct all this. But this might be quite I haven't gone through this. This might be quite interesting to kind of go through all lang large why are you making this change? All large language models, language models like Claude are trained using large amounts of data. Data from real world interactions.

Now, here's the thing. I actually don't think coding, you know, we've got all the data out there. If you ask an AI to build you an app, it's going to build it in React and it's going to build it using Tailwind and Shad CM. It's not it's not going to keep up with some of the latest trends, right? I think this will make sure they're ahead of the game because they're actually able to learn of what people are actually building or asking the AI to build. Granted, probably most people will just be happy with the React, you know, Express, you know, full stack application, but there will be developers who want to force inel or who want to um use their own systems using um anthropic.

Now I wonder if there's anything to do with tool use because obviously when I use a tool I just installed it the other day but it's similar to context 7 and in that it gets documentation up to-date documentation to help write code because of course if I ask it to use a library that was released last week then it's not going to know anything about that because I don't know when the cuto off date is with Claude I think it's September last year does the result from the tool come into play so let's have a look at that Yeah, combination of tools. So, I've just searched tool and it doesn't show up anywhere, but anyway, let's um let's continue with this.

Um when developer debugs code collaborating with AI model interaction offers valuable signals. So basically yeah I mean as you as you would expect and why are you extending uh AI development cycle span years um 18 to 20 uh models released today uh development basically 18 to 24 months ago they're they're you know they're up until so you won't get anything younger than 18 months ago or older. Yeah. Keeping the data consistent through the training process helps make the models more consistent to models trained on similar data will respond reason and produce outputs in similar ways. I mean yeah there's nothing really here that's this is why I would have you know updated this to be honest but there is a there is a bit of backlash people are a bit worried about it particularly when it comes to data security you know again we reported last week that um Grock was was announcing that a bunch of things were being published to publicly now whether again I don't know I speculated whether that was actually a developer a mess up or whether there was a communication issue and actually they've done nothing wrong but it was just not communicated that that would be indexable.

So don't just share your bomb making history whatever the people were sharing. Um, Otter AI as well, a company that messed up on they actually got done a whoopsie and that they were actually storing people's data. Like there's just a there's just this worry that are they capable of actually storing data and without any compromisation with any breaches or anything like that. So there is a worry there. Um, how is it with Open AI and other companies like how long are they storing our data? Do you I think they're 30 days. I do think 30 days. Let me let me uh how long go on but even if it's one day can't they theoretically just feed it to whatever I don't know like can't they generalize I don't know the process I know what you mean.

So once that data is in they take it and then they're out right. Is that what you're saying? Yeah. I don't know to be honest. I don't know. Um yeah 30 days a delete data after 30 days. Um okay. So maybe now they will follow. If if Claude can get away with it, you're right. Yeah. Mark Zuckerberg is like he's very happy because Claude is getting away with it and he will be asking for more now. Yeah. I mean, you know, it society is like this. You nudge him a little bit, you take a little bit, you nudge him a little bit more, you take a little bit more, you know. Um but at the end of the day, again, everyone's going to be different here.

Um, I'm just I don't really use CL Claude for any personal stuff. What am I what are people really offended or upset or worried about what information they're genuinely worried about taking would be would be quite interesting. Let us know in the comments. What are you worried about AI? What do you What do you think AI is going to do with your data? What are you worried about? I'd love to know. We would love or like what is the private type of thing that you are talking to AI to about that you don't want to be published? Yeah. What are the questionable things that you're asking? I would I would love a producer. By the way, if you're if you're a budding producer and would love to work with us, get in contact because they can collect all this stuff and then we can just sit back and react to it at the end of the the end of the week.

Um I want to I want to talk about another news that I almost Yeah, we almost forgot. Well, one one more thing just on this just quickly. Yeah. um they're actually announced a AI safety research off off the back of all this as well. So they're actually being cognizant that people are using it to be, you know, to be their their theirrapist or or to give them advice or whatever. So they're launching a new kind of I guess thing that was so they're launching AI safety research to um to uh the to research the encompassing the societal impact of AI models which made me think about a recent thing where a guy killed his mother or the chatbt convinced him who he named David or something like this convinced him that his mother was like a Russian spy and he killed his mother.

Now, you're never going to help people who are on the edge and are a bit, you know, twisted, but AI has this ability to agree with you and this is what it was doing. It was like saying it does sound a bit fishy that your mother cut that conversation short or she didn't want to say this, that, and the other. It does seem those patterns do align with people who are hiding something from you. So um but open AI are trying to make to to recognize these patterns and to train their models to actually seek support and be less um supportive of your ideas because it will just it just wants to make you happy.

It just agre it's so agreeable. It says you know whatever. So um in in all of this Claude have announced that they are going to be taking that more seriously too. So yeah, pros and cons from Claude there or anthropic. All right. Have you heard the other claude anthropic news? No, just bundle it in. Get it in there. Yeah. So it seems like that AI companies are in a race to see who can burn more billions. Okay. Claude just uh raised $13 billion at a series F U raising for a total of 183 183 billion dollars like post money valuation. It's just insane. 13 billions for 7% by the way. Yeah, I was going to say it's more of a it's more of a shout on the percentage because I think uh OpenAI um equity stake I think they raised like a 130 billion or something like that or something crazy.

So by they're by far and a way not the largest raiser of capital, but the amount 7% is crazy. Like to only give away 7% is crazy. And they are all losing money. I know. Yeah. Thing is they're so far behind. They've got to they're training like future models and it sort of basically compounds. Yes. And there is this hope that they will catch up that there will be like what is the hope? What is the I don't know I it just it seems like they are all burning a bunch of money and Nvidia is as we talked about it is definitely the winner. Who who gets this 13 billion like most of it probably will just go Nvidia.

Nvidia it's like Anthropic raises money. Nvidia is like, "Nice." Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, fair play to him. It's um it's a lot of money. It's a little bit amount of stake. And uh yeah, I'm uh I'm here for it. Take give my data. Just write my code. I've been on fire the last few days writing code with Claude code. So, we can get into that a bit later on, but um yeah. Yeah. Well done, Claude. Anthropic. Um, should we Switzerland? Should we talk about Ark? Well, yeah, we have like We can go either of them. Okay. Well, I mean, the Swiss the Switzerland one is the um the I think the Swiss one is short.

You can tell me about it because I don't know much. So, what's up what's up with Switzerland and open source models? What's up with Switzerland? What's up? Um, so Switzerland have just dropped arpet apertus ar Switzerland just dropped arpetus the AI model that actually respects your privacy. Now I'm stoked about this. I love this. It's an open-source model that really is just I mean if you don't know anything about Switzerland, they've got all the banks that all the multi-billionaires store all their money in. So they know how to deal with you know privacy. They're pretty true to their word here. So I believe them when they say it. Um, it's an open-source multilingual large language model and it's basically going to challenge some of the biggest names in China and and um America and open source models and it's privacy focused and what I love about it is that it's trained um across what is it here a thousand languages.

Now we spoke a few weeks ago about uh you know what languages to train on and this and that and whatever. So that's quite cool. 40% of the train data is non-English, including um under representative languages such as Swiss, German, and Roman. Of course, it is because it's all pretty much the same. That's insane. 40%. Yeah. So, it's going to be really 8 billion and 70 billion parameters. So, seems reasonable. I mean, like I wonder if the 8 billion one is something that can that could probably run on something really um uh yeah, lightweight, quite quite a fast model. Um and I love that it's European. I mean, Switzerland and Shenzhen, I don't know. I think it's kind of it's in this funny spot where it's like it is and it isn't.

They respect and allow Shenzhen activ Shenen activity, but they're not actually part of Shenen, I think, or something like that. They do their own thing. They do their own thing. I got told that by a guy on a boat as I was crossing the river in Basil. He was explaining to me the uh the how Switzerland partake in the EU. So that was mine. And interesting. Well, um, about this open-source thing, like theoretic, not open source thing actually, more privacy thing, like theoretically you could run any model on a server and just keep the data to yourself or have a company like you tomorrow, you could raise a billion dollars and just rent some warehouse and theoretically run any open-source model there and respect your users privacy.

So it's it's essentially the choice of the provider. It's not about the open source model. It's who provides who's running the is it called like the inference model? Who's running the I don't know. I don't know who's running the AI model. It's up to them to respect your privacy or not. I guess so. This is this is a whole world or when I hear open source I just think well it's not I run the model. It's not being sent off anywhere. um and whatever how I'd read that am I am I if I was going to be you know uh if I was going to use your data and I was going to wrap a product in this open source tool what am I doing am I intercepting your questions and the answers and then just taking that and storing it somewhere in some sort of logs I honestly don't know um I guess open source as well I mean again open source and open weights are different I don't think this is open weight so I don't think you can actually look at the Um well I don't know open way open source is is kind of a difficult subject to describe but um I guess open source is that I can see what in how how it's been trained or something.

I don't know. Let's just not get into this because I don't know enough about it. But um yeah, like I could wrap this and call it any I could call it something else but secretly under the hood be using this model and no one can do anything about that. Saying that there's probably needs to be you need to look at licensing maybe you have to say we're using arbitus or appetitus I don't know how you say it but um yeah not sure not sure in a in a nutshell. Yeah, but they are making their develop their entire development process public publicly accessible. So they are properly going all in on like look we're so we're open about what we do.

You can trust us trust and arpetus is Latin for open I think I read. So okay that's there you go. You learn you learned Latin today. That is that's what you come here for. You learn Latin. Um but anyway we said it was going to be short unless you got anything to add on. We will go to our next news that is not AI AI news. Yeah. Yeah. Take this one away. All right. Um, so one of my favorite pieces of software ever uh just died again for the second time. Arc browser uh made by browser company just got acquired by anthrop by Anthropic, not Anthropic. They just got acquired by Atlassian, the company that makes Jira, one of the most annoying pieces of software ever existed and a bunch of other pieces of software that they own.

So, Atlassian, they own uh Trello. They didn't make Trello, I believe. They acquired Trello. They they own Loom, don't they? They they also own Loom like the software that we use to like I use Loom every day to communicate with teammates with clients like a bunch of things. um they they just go around and they acquire these companies and how do they have so much money like because I I don't know why did they got so much adoption from these huge companies anyway people use them for their project management tools and now they acquired the browser company a company that make made arc and now DIA um and they haven't been making any money dia and arc Uh it seems like the browser company really lacks the understanding of how how to make a tool that makes money.

Uh and yeah, now they are acquired by Atlassian to be ruined. Atlassian do have a history of ruining software. They I mean Trello was so good. It was so clean, so simple, fast, and then as soon as as soon as they acquired it, it just went just crashed and burned. Same with Bitbucket. I don't think they made Bitbucket. I think Bitbucket was like a simple Bit Git solution. They bought it just it's just they've got a massive history of just buying products and just just making a mess of them. Do you know what I mean? Like in I think they actually made Jira and yeah, that's all you need to know about what their ability is like to make make.

So about Jira um at my like I had a short time working at Adidas we had Jira for everything. So imagine projects like multi-million dollar projects planned in Jira. So that you theoretically could know like two years. In two years there are like 10 people working on these tasks for the next two weeks like in you could you could plan out your next years uh for the project. Obviously it all gets adjusted as you move forward but that is what we were using for and we were documenting everything on Confluence I believe it's called. It's like tightly integrated with Jira. And what's crazy, we had like project managers in my team, right? But we had a Jira guy in another team and I would go to him to ex to to to like get help with something because yeah, it was so freaking like complex that there there were like plugins and integrations to like let the developers to like log in their time in a specific way and it was just so freaking complex.

this piece of just project management tool like it's a project management tool and it was so complex that there was this guy I believe had like one of the safest jobs on earth like nobody could fire him like the entire organization depended on his knowledge of understanding the internal tools and like how Jira worked um so that that was really interesting to see how how bad Jira was I I used it I didn't like it I kind of like hated it. Confluence was fine actually. I I liked using Confluence. Confluence was like notion probably with more things. Jira in theory it was amazing because you could have your you know you had this project and the project managers could create reports based on what developers have added.

So im imagine like the rate of new errors added to the software and the rate of errors solved like not just the number of them the amount but the rate like over time like there were just so much that you could add to it. Um but yeah people really hate uh Jira because of how complex and slow it is and other tools by Atlassian and Arc. People dislike Atlassian. Did you um I mean did you mention how much they're buying them for? Uh oh no I didn't. So it's $610 million. It's less than I would guess though. I don't know why I we are getting used to billions for these like you know just 13 billions just like casually thrown.

Did you did you see the um by the way there's some um I've forgotten what language you speak. What's the language you speak? FYI I do. Yeah. There's a far comment on on Instagram. I don't know what it says. Oh, it says salam. Hi. Oh, hello. Salamkum. Yeah. Well, that that salam would be Arabic. That's the one there. Salam is like I could geek out about language man. I can do um but did you did you see the videos that were released for this and the whole release of it? I I've seen like yeah the videos through like other creators but yes I've seen them the second the second the email came out. Actually maybe I've still got it here somewhere.

I'm talking the second because I was I was looking at my emails when it came through. I clicked on this thing because I was like, "What the is this?" Um, and I I watched it and I Here we go. New chapter thanks to you. An exciting new chapter. Josh here. Big news. We're excited to share. Um, and I I didn't even read the email. I just kind of clicked on it, right? And I was really confused because this this email, this this video that they've released, this marketing email doesn't really say an awful lot. It kind of goes through their history of like what they're aiming to build and this and I was like, what is this video that I've just watched?

And I had to read the YouTube title to see what the hell they were even talking about. Furthermore, Josh released a tweet that really didn't explain much either. like he didn't even mention Atlassian in his tweet. Yeah, it seems like he doesn't. Yeah, but I did watch the Atlassian release of the video was slightly more clear. And I've got to say, you know, the vision and the execution are different topics here, so bear with me guys. But it does make sense. It does make sense that Jira have a browser that just works with all of their tools and things like that that it is in of itself a product of of aten. Um be really interesting to um we get some love.

I don't know from who some more fary um yeah we are I don't know I I'm optimistic that the the vision is there but whether they can execute is another matter but the videos were were odd. Yeah. Um Theo said he mentioned in his video if Josh is slightly embarrassed by Atlassian. I mean you wouldn't Josh is Josh is the owner of uh browser company by the way. What do you mean he's embarrassed? He didn't mention it in his video. He didn't mention it in his tweet. He sold you got you. Yeah. he might not be very proud of selling his, you know, baby, you know, and yeah, he he's been trying to go around the masses and not, you know, stay with developers and power users and go for other people, but like the masses, it's really hard to imagine people, the masses, again, not the power users, paying any money for a browser.

They people just use Safari. Like yes, power users would absolutely pay. Like I would pay like legit I would pay for Arc, but I would not and I will not pay for DIA. I like DIA, but it's it's not there. It's not where ARC was. Uh with Arc, I could like I'm actually planning on moving back, by the way, to to Arc. Oh, I I mean I don't know why Arc isn't being used right now, but I've moved back to Arc for these streams to present the full screen. Yeah, I I have like battery issues, but I maybe it's just my my laptop degrading. I can't not, you know, I can't use DIA for what I'm doing.

I need the folders. I need this the the structures that I have there. You you mentioned that you saw the video from Atlassian. They show this example with 20 different like 20 different windows with 20 different tabs. That was legit me. I was that person. I was that person before Arc. And in Arc, I don't have multiple spaces. I have two, but I use primarily one of them, one space, but across multiple instances. So, it's the same account in multiple spaces, I guess. And I use it for like organizing my tabs. And that that's what I need. That's what I want. Yeah. And I will continue using it until Atlassian ruin it. I'm I'm loving I'm loving Comet.

Um I'm not using the AI as much as I thought I would. Um I think it will come and go because I'm just deep in code right now. I'm not doing a lot of admin, not productivity. But I would like to I wonder what would happen if I disappear into admin mode. Um, but yeah, I do I my tabs have grown quite significantly. Again, I think it's just I'm just going into my developer shell where I'm just like getting really lazy and smelly. I haven't changed my underwear in three days, so like but um yeah, that was unnecessary. Your examples are so wild. No. Um, but yeah, comment comments my browser. I mean, you know, we're not here to talk about the I haven't tried it yet.

You should, man. I was misinformed actually. I thought it got released. The email was phrased as if it's been released, but it's still it's just only to Max. And tell us about being charged for for Arc, sorry, for Dia. Is that one of the reasons why you moved back as well? What's this? What's this payment? No, like Yeah. So, DIA did ask for money. There is a paid version, but I don't think anybody is paying for this or anybody should pay for this. I don't think that. And the AI is just not even that good. Like, it it's not where it needs where I need it to be. And the idea of chatting with multiple tabs amazing.

I I found out that I don't use it all that much. No, that's yeah if I need another tab the context from another tab I can copy paste it if I have to. Um what I need what I need is like multiple like like f a good folder management. I use my browser the way I want to use my file system like my um what's it called like my what's it called like in in Mac like like organizing your Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Uh, is there a tool m I'm pretty sure there is like an extension that works like I know that Claude made this but any other that is open source or not open source like open to use um that does what DIA does with one tab like just chat with a tab.

I would just give that a try in Arc. Um uh Claude again but this is AI right? So this stuff you need to pay for like this is why it makes sense that you would pay for DIA, right? Because it's using AI. Um Claude have released a Chrome um extension. Yeah, that's what I want. Something like that. Yeah, but hopefully, you know, with this um Gemini Nano in the browser, this is this is perfect use case for it. Google might just release a really simple or you could bit vibe code yourself an extension that leverages the Gemini Nano API that you can just chat with a window. Yeah. All I Yeah, that's all I want.

And where I use it is for my chats. Not all of like email, WhatsApp. That's the two that I currently have. When I have Yeah. When I work with clients, I want to just, you know, text them in whatever language that I want and then DIA takes care of it. Uh, but I I'm going to keep DIA. So, that's my plan. I'm gonna keep here but as my secondary browser just for my chats. I'm moving back to like I'm just simply I didn't I never left Arc. So I'm moving back by just logging in like web flow and a bunch of other tools in uh Arc and just continue using it. And I actually noticed that I missed it.

I missed the vertical tabs. I missed the the management man. It's so good. Like I have the idea the the most important thing that I think ARC is doing for me are like two things spaces that I can so so so that I can have instances of like like different parts of my brain in different spaces and in each space the idea of the idea of mixing a tab with a bookmark into one one entity, one thing. That's I think that that was genius that idea. And there is is there any tool that does this? Not that I know of. Not that I know of. That is Chromium. I think uh with most we're getting way off track now, but I think with most tools I think you do you just I think it's worth just sitting down and just going through everything that tool like just nerding out on the preferences panel for instance stuff like that because I reckon like I'm not using comet half as much as again I'm not in that mind set but I bet there's loads of little features here and there that I'm not using.

Um, but I've I I've been doing that with Claude code basically just nerding out on all of the different things. I like right I've heard about sub agents. Let's just use them. Let's just set some up and start thinking about it. And oftentimes I'm always I've made like I make shorts all the time on claw code because I'm like right let's learn a feature and then I think of a use case for it. Because again going back to what we spoke about earlier about like interviewing your users before like building something. It's like at the same like I learn the tool, I learn the what it's about and then that's where my creativity starts to go wild then and thinking like how can I how can I fit this into my workflow.

Going back to Arc and the browser company and stuff like that and you know similarly with the whole user thing the whole user base is so confusing with with the browser company and like he wanted to build a browser that his nan could use yet now he sold it to the most productivity enterprise company that means then no one's ever going to use Atlassian browser. Do you know what I mean? like well they're going to keep it at they're going to keep it arc and they're going to keep it like just like they did with Trello. Trell was always but they're going to make such a pig's ear of it that it's going to be even less like your nan's going to bloody use it.

So it's so odd. Congratulations Josh. You've you've got your payday. Like this is what you've always wanted. You you know this is I just don't understand. Nothing makes sense about this whole acquisition. Uh, no. Well, what Atlassian want to do makes sense, but like browser company, he's he's not a great CEO. Does Atlassian have any um open source that you know of? Sorry. Could Atassian open source? Yeah. Do they open source anything? I don't think so. No way. Yeah. They don't sol this is software. Yeah. They're not they're not building the the um there'll be an analogy somewhere, but they're not they're not building the bricks to help you build stuff. They they're providing you the software.

So um yeah. Yeah. So the idea of ARC becoming open source uh will die. Let's hope let's close this topic by hope for AI getting so good that I can just create a clone of Arc one day. I mean, mate, this is where we're going. This is where Vibe Coding's going. This is where these um what do they what do Anthropic call them? Archives. No, I don't know. Yeah, build your own browser, mate. It's all build what you need. Um let's go to Webflow way. Let's chat about Web Flow way. Um do you want to take this one? Yes. I want to also share. Let's see how I'll show. I'll show it. Look. Yeah. Okay.

Okay. By the way, when you share like this, let's see how this stream will be recorded because, you know, use this for YouTube, right? Yeah, it's true. It's true. We might have shot ourselves in the foot with this vertical streaming nonsense, but we'll see how it goes. It's the first time, so yeah. All right. So, uh, let me go to my notes. So the question is how do you create a website and set it up for success? You need a design system. You need uh to make sure that things are built the right way so you can scale it so you can you know change content, add content and all of that. You you need to have add languages.

You have uh SEO to take care of. And you also have why why did you go? I'm just I'm here. I'm here. Yeah, I I got this right. Anyway, so and you also have in today's age, you have AI uh you want your website to, you know, be AI readable and all of that. There is a lot of things that you want to take care of in order to make or have a very scalable and successful website that you know helps your business grow. And Web Flow just published this thing that they call the Web Flow way. It is essentially a documentation on how web flow think we should build websites. It's really like wellthoughtout um like written documents by industry leaders on design systems on CMS localization uh SEO collaboration and how to analyze and optimize your website.

So if you go to the first one for example, if you go to design systems there you see there are like seven articles and each article includes a bunch of things. So this the number seven is accessibility something that really matters. Um and you can read the article like click on read the article. Oh hover that's not very accessible. Yeah, they they they should have made the entire thing um clickable. Anyway, so there are a bunch of articles on this and what matters, where does it matter, and why, and ways to do it, right? So, it's essentially a huge checklist on doing things right. I wish there was kind of like a onepage huge like document shape of like a like a checklist type of thing for everything that they they have there.

Maybe I create that because I already have a very thorough and like hu I have a huge checklist, man. Um but yeah, this is very interesting. I went through some of it. It's not something that you can read in one setting. It's a very deep. Look at this. Yeah. Yeah. And it's it's it has a lot of links like if you look at these links at the end of this page uh to the what's it called that website for the if you scroll a little bit up a little bit more. Yeah. These recommended reading VCAG. Yeah. No not optimizing mobile. Yeah. WCAG is funny. But yeah, that's uh that's the web flow way and this goes on for like CMS and other things and I'm just genuinely excited like looking at it pointing my team at this um like tell them to develop based on these rules.

uh for myself whenever I have a question okay how am I how should I use like variables I can come here and see how web flow suggest me using variables and like the the end result if you put all of these into practice you you should have a really like scalable beautiful well-designed website that that's the point um I think the goal here is to help developers and designers to build better websites to also probably sell to clients. And I could imagine showing this page to my uh leads like my future clients and tell them hey this is what you get especially like the design system one that hey you get not just a website you get a whole design system that is a marketing asset for you.

couple of uh things jump out to me is um I wonder if this was ever going to be a book. This feels like quite natural that it would be quite a book and I I wish I could show you it, but I one of the only Europeans to have the Web Flow um uh scaling your Web Flow agency book and it says volume one on it and that by Edgar Allen, right? Well, yeah. And I don't know what the agreement was between Web Flow and Edgar Allen, whether Edgar Allen proposed this idea or whatever, but it was volume one. seems like this would have been a perfect fit for volume two, the web flow way.

Um, secondly, it needs links. It It needs interactivity. Sure, but again, I'm sure there's a lot you can get away. I think there's a lot, not that it shouldn't be a website, you know, like I say, um, but it would be cool for this to be a book. Similarly, you know, one thing you've expressed a few times is about how Web Flow kind of dropped the ball um when it comes to kind of their tutorial their university whole system, their kind of social marketing. Yeah. I wonder why they've they've gone to to um a reading format over maybe producing some videos on it. This is not to criticize. It would be cool to see some videos kind of coming in and supporting some of this stuff and talking about this stuff in the classic Web Flow way because they're so good at writing and producing videos.

Unless that team has kind of disbanded now, I don't know. Um, and then the only other thing is is like where's the authority coming from on this stuff? Do you know? Yeah, the authority comes from industry leaders. So they are using people like uh Timothy Rick's uh methods and other people in the industry that are very respectable and like we generally trust these people to to know their their way. Then come to me then come to me. Uh they have Corey I believe as well. Corey is like one of my favorite um like he works at Webflow. I don't know if he directly worked on in this project or not. He created mast, right? Yes.

Yes, he created mast and uh I just generally trust the way he does things because I think he is this like perfect middle ground between like engineer designer. He has the taste, he has the technical ability. Uh I I think he's a great communicator. like in general I think he is really great when it comes to somebody like Timothy he tends to he tends to push the the boundaries but that comes with a cost um it's really some it it is difficult I've heard like from many people to to follow his ways because he's pushing the the platforms he's literally pushing the ways that you can build uh but that comes with a level of complexity especially in uh the learning curve and whatever that he does.

But at the end he achieves like the best performance or the best scalability or like the best uh flexibility when it comes to layouts and changing them and like the way he uses variables and variable um yeah sets. Anyway, so these are the people uh who have built this and I'm excited about just like diving deeper into it. M very cool. I'm excited and I don't even use Web Flow. Not anymore. Not anymore. I've move I've moved on. I graduated from that. Um they went down again I think recently or something. And there was that I'm actually in massive I'm trying to build a Web Flow cloud course trying to bridge that where where my interests lie and where my strengths are when it comes to um Web Flow and uh I'm working with their team at the moment because the documentation just I followed it just doesn't work.

I've pushed I've recorded a tutorial on how to use storage and I it's working fine on my local machine. Everything's good. Push it up to Web Flow and it just it just doesn't work. I'm actually talking with them at the moment trying to fix their documentation and and whatever. I had an issue like that as well and my developer when I showed it to him with web flow cloud when I showed it to him he said this is very likely AI generated documentation because it was a hallucination. It looked like a hallucination and my developer got it working by not following the documentations but his guts basically thinking oh a web flow develop like developers at web flow have thought about the APIs this way so let's do it this way and it worked yeah you'll see because I I produced I produced like three or four videos on web flow cloud today and actually during that video I literally say the documentation tells you to do this, but actually you need to do this.

It doesn't work when you do that. Um and and yeah, and also they have two sections on storage and um by that I mean there's one that says get started and it has the three different types of storage you can use and then another one is like a maybe a deeper dive or something, but the whole the setup on the two tutorials is just different. Anyway, we're not here to on Webflow, but but um yeah, I'm having I'm I'm just having issues with with Web Flow Cloud thing at the moment, and it's preventing me from producing more more um episodes for my course. And about them going down, they did actually go down again. I tweeted about this.

Uh I just said, "We flow outage again. This is getting annoying." It was down for a few hours and I was actually trying to get some stuff down and I couldn't. Um, and that was really annoying. And that tweet got like 7,000 views, which is a bit much for the a small community and somebody just, you know, being annoyed about going down. People love to hate at the moment. Yeah, it seems like I I didn't I didn't think it will get like this many people noticed and yeah, again like people got really annoyed by it, but I yeah, this is this is definitely damaging the the web like people's trust in web flow. Definitely a different vibe at the moment, less enthusiastic.

I don't know whether I just because I've I've stepped back from it but the feel no there is no social like interest for like especially in in Twitter because yeah they dropped the ball with uh marketing really have yeah maybe they are going with something like Atlassian like nobody talks you know ex with excitement about Atlassian but companies are paying them millions and millions and they are apparently super profitable, super successful. So maybe Web Flow is trying to become that type of company. Corporate. Corporate. Yeah. Corporate. Even you pay more, you you get more and all that kind of mentality. I wouldn't be surprised if they start leaving some of their core audience behind if that was the case.

They have already, you know. Yeah. Yeah. They have already. But it still doesn't mean you shouldn't use it and you shouldn't enjoy it. It's just don't expect the same level of treatment. Um, yeah, definitely. It's not It's still like the best tool to get the job done. All I'm annoyed with is their marketing. I would And it's I think their marketing team has shrunk. That's the issue. Like they don't have many people working in the marketing. Yeah, I think I saw them advertising some lead or something like that. But um yeah, but what are you going to do? This is business. This is how this is how we go through ups and downs, you know.

No one's perfect and it's faking hard, you know. It's easy to it's easy to dump on people when maybe I will take care of their marketing. Well, here here's the thing. I mean, this is slightly different and it goes back to my my post on LinkedIn. Um, it's crazy how many how much people just and we probably we probably all do this. You, me, the viewers, everyone, we probably all do this. I don't think we realize how presumptuous we come across with our um messages and comments and things like that. Like we know we know oh they should do this and you see it all the time and I watched a true crime video yesterday and someone was at the end of the video was like what do you think happened to the daughter that got brutally murdered or whatever.

It's like you're asking the like they don't know anything but people will comment and talk like they do. Reason why I say this, there is someone in the comments of my LinkedIn post. I posted a photo of me in a banana suit and I use Nano Banana to do this. They are adamant that I took a photo of myself in a banana costume because they've overlaid the two and there are slight differences in the image. I don't really understand his point because on the one hand you're saying, you know, because my point was Photoshop's, you know, is going to kill Photoshop sort of thing. Um, on the one hand you're saying no, it will never kill Photoshop.

On the other hand, you're completely convinced that I dressed up in a banana suit to take a photo. Um, you know, and and AI is that good that you're like, "No, no, you must have taken a photo." To be honest, the moment you sent me this, for the first moment, I thought it is real. Yeah. For real. Like this. I was like I I well I wouldn't it you wouldn't surprise me if you would really like wear a banana costume for whatever like I don't know festival. I mean it's fine. So for the first moment I thought this is real and I was like so cool until I noticed wait this is this is AI but it didn't look AI.

It absolutely looks real and you wouldn't know because no it wasn't until I posted the original photo because I posted them side by side on LinkedIn that people had anything to comment on, you know, and and I get what they're saying like if you're doing Photoshop and this was one of the big selling points in Nano Banana, it doesn't alter the original photo, but there are some instances my arm has kind of moved down a little bit like this and um you know um my ego is a lot bigger as well in in the Photoshop in the nano banana photo. Um, micro banana micro banana. Um, but you know, you you generally wouldn't notice. But anyway, my point is is that the the number of comments saying you don't know what you're talking No, actually something more specific.

You do not use Photoshop or you haven't used Photoshop if you're saying this. And one guy, one one had the audacity to say, "You could, it's obvious you don't know, you don't know Photoshop or you don't use Photoshop." And blah blah blah blah blah. I said a bunch of stuff. And they said, "I bet you $50 you've never used Photoshop." And I just responded and I said, "I used to hack it when I was like 16 years old. I had master collection. I use little snitch which is a niche little product that you use to block Adobe contacting Adobe and this that like I did design for six years in university in college. I I was on it every single day working at Frame tagging all of these companies you know I said I used Photoshop and yet he still is adamant that I did not use Photoshop.

And I'm like mate I have no idea what you're talking about. I use f like how how can anyone in the comments section know anything about the person producing the content? You really don't. You might think you do, but you don't. You you literally get a slither of information, a snapshot in time, a snapshot of context that you have really no right to comment on anyone's doing of this that and the other or why they made a certain decision just comes with it. you know that just it's it's these two personalities that we we spoke about but um anyway we're going way off piece so we should we wrap up here. Yeah. Uh we basically talked about everything that we wanted to talk about.

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